I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. . This limit is what forces rulers to distribute power to vassals rather than directly controlling their entire realm. In general when you get the "Wrong Type of Holding" notification you should try and give it to the correct type of ruler. . . . After clicking it, I get a notice saying that Wrong Type of Holding in Demesne. They are not the right type of holding. . Barons have baronies, mayors have cities, and bishops have bishoprics. If you are for example playing Ireland and conquer ormond, you will get this warning. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. Feb 21, 2012. But you can put them under a vassal if you like. If Hindu, be sure to match the character's caste with the holding type. But I can't give it away. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. I hold Leicester as Earl. Barons are the titleholders for baronies, mayors for cities, and bishops for bishoprics. Any help would be appreciated. The second is to get a big fat capital, like 6 or 7 slots, and just build castles and hold them all yourself. makes sense. Sounds like you're tribal and the holding is feudal. Barons are affected by feudal ta, mayors are. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. I don't understand this. In general when you get the "Wrong Type of Holding" notification you should try and. In a separate issue, I have towns/castles that I can't upgrade because it says I don't have Keeps II which I do have. It is not worth it. Crusader Kings II. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. For the castle wall buildings, you get these numbers: Level 1, cost 50, income 0. I gave away the bishopric that I took over, but I still have it and it says that the Chiefdom of Gwynedd is the wrong holding type for me. . types - castles, cities, temples or tribes. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. A Screenshot of Crusader Kings III. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. I have this and I dont know how to fix it. I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. . . . . A ruler's demesne limit is based on tier, personal and spouse stewardship, succession type, and centralization law. My main CK2 mod: Les 3 Tours / The 3 Towers: economy, cathedrals and lots more for a better medieval flavoured experience CK3 mod: My Monastery: adds monasteries as new holding type. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. Bishoprics: A middle ground between baronies and cities. I have all of Ireland right now (I'm also King of Eire), and I took over Gwynedd from the Petty Kingdom of Gwynedd, but now I have the wrong holding type in my demesne for some reason. In a separate issue, I have towns/castles that I can't upgrade because it says I don't have Keeps II which I do have. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. Either to an unlanded courtier, previously landed vassal or a newly created one through the given holding's menu. . . Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. 1) Wrong type of holding in Demesne, did not changed when i gave it away to my second born son. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. Either give them away to a mayor or bishop or create a new such vassal by right-clicking that settlement and choose the "Create new vassal" option from the menu that pops up. . Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. Just give the county to some nobody that shares your religion and culture and isn't ambitious!! And how I can change this. Because whenever I assign a landed title I see. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. Crusader Kings III. Fast forward a generation and the. So my count, which rules of two counties died. I am a new player of CK2 (current patch) playing as the feudal King of Sweden on the standard start date. I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. Counties can have 3 types of holdings - baronies, cities, and bishoprics. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. So, I'm the king of England. 19 coastal. Later you can use the character search to land people in your realm, usually nice same culture/religion people on the council of your vassals. I restored the Roman Empire as the Byzantines in 769 start, and then made Rome my capital, but since then its given me the "holding in demesne is wrong type" message. . I guess it's because the capital is temple and I should put some bishop to rule there, right?So, I'm the king of England. On Windows, Alt + NumPad 2 + NumPad 1 enters a §. My vassal guy Ragnvald from Ormund decided. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. just right click the little thumbnail of each holding in the county and hit "create vassal". ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. I have de jure claims on Worchester, it was ruled by a prince-bishop since the capital of the county is temple. Thank you. . how do I change it so the county is controlled by the castle? (i know how to change the owners of the wrong demense type, but in current format I can only gove the. Any help would be appreciated. They are not the right type of holding. 5. Demesne income. Just now, I finished constructing a new city in the county where my ruler resides. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. Barons are affected by feudal ta, mayors are. I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. 3/1/2023 0 Comments The Earth Hillfort in this holding is already Level I so will “only” take three more upgrades to become. Cities: Focus on tax. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. I have looked at the titles for that county (Perfeddwlad - Wales) and I have nothing for the Major of Dendigh which the title was originally. For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). Tax Percentage is set by liege law. . . Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. . These holdings provide both income and taxes, and every holding is held by a character. I gave away the bishopric that I took over, but I still have it and it says that the Chiefdom of Gwynedd is the wrong holding type for me. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. Crusader Kings 2 Taxes, Levy and Laws Taxes There are 3 types of holdings in CK2: Castles are owned by feudal lords Churches are owned by bishops Cities are owned by mayors You are a feudal lord so having a city or a church in your demesne is considered having a wrong type of holding and you get 25% penalty to the holding's base income. Within each barony you can build a single Holding. . I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. . I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. All but 1 are coastal. You will be a very powerful ruler, but you will also have a decreased vassal limit, which means that your realm will be rather small. . So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. 3/1/2023 0 Comments The Earth Hillfort in this holding is already Level I so will “only” take three more upgrades to become a Stone Hillfort, which is what you need to go feudal. I hold Leicester as Earl. A holding will receive pretty significant tax and levy penalties with the wrong type of ruler. Any help would be appreciated. Fast forward a generation and the. Ok so I'm completely new to CK2, never played the original. Kinda retired modder, for now. 0) If you are using the 'Way of Life' DLC you must either have Business Focus, or instead be of Vaishya caste. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. I hold Leicester as Earl. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. . Folks, another clueless newbie question: in my current game, I am getting more cash than I'm used to, so I've been improving cities in my demesne left and right. I have looked at the titles for that county (Perfeddwlad - Wales) and I have nothing for the Major of Dendigh which the title was originally. As such, your first goal should be level 2 in all holdings before you upgrade any further. 4 7 comments Add a Comment RandomGenius123 • 4 yr. 3 coastal holdings/county. i have a 7 holding capital. Alternatively, if that county level title is held by a mayor, I think he. cities. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. I revoked a the title of mayor of a main city of a holding from a vassal. If you have the wrong holding type you take about 25% of the base income as income. The solutions are either getting the right type of holding to be the county capital, either by building a new holding of the correct type or revoking the title of another holding of the correct type in the county, or give the county to someone else. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. And how I can change this. This law will determin how your realm will be organized: tall or wide. I don't understand this. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. Early game they're cheap but get pricey quick. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. (Added 1. I gave away the bishopric that I took over, but I still have it and it says that the Chiefdom of Gwynedd is the wrong holding type for me. Ck2 Pillage Holding; Such holdings may either be counties or baronies. . These control whether or not the 'Recently Conquered' and 'New Administration' holding modifiers are set on victory. Am I supposed to spend a bunch of money to upgrade the tribe into a castle? Do I have to build a castle from. 2. A ruler's is an important part of their demesne. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. . A large part of your income, especially in a small realm, comes from the personal holdings of your demesne . . But now I see Wrong type of holding in demesne message. 1 coastal holdings/county. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. Last edited by Nea's Nose ; Mar 17, 2021 @ 8:18pm. Just had a change of leaders, for some reason one of my demenses changed from the castle (barony) being the main title, to a city. e. And how I can change this. I now have a penelty for wrong demense type. 700+. I revoked a the title of mayor of a main city of a holding from a vassal. two) will turn into a mere 75-gold wall. . As a King can only hold two Duchies without a large opinion penalty from. 700+. Wrong type of holding in demesne NapoleonI Feb 21, 2012 Jump to latest Follow Reply I got this message when I revoked the title of major of Sigtuna (a city) from. Also, it can be a good idea to not grant too. What exactly does this mean? If there's no castle, then you'd need to build one then give the barony away, if the castle holder is your vassal, you can try to revoke the castle title, make it the primary holding, then give the barony away. Any help would be appreciated. . Holding Income = (Base Income + Building Income) x (1 + Local Income Modifiers) x (1 + Owner Income Modifiers) The Base Holding Income is the sum of: the Base Income of the holding: 0. Hi all, I'm playing tribal in Ireland and I have just clicked the adopt feudalism button. 23 total. Just make sure you keep a fair sum for emergency mercs. Also, it can be a good idea to not grant too many holdings to one vassal. And how I can change this. Instead, he becomes a count (suffering from a wrong demesne holding type penalty). A ruler's demesne limit is based on tier, personal and spouse stewardship, succession type, and centralization law. And how I can change this. First thing you need to know is that as a feudal christain lord you can only hold castles without a big penalty, temples and towns are the wrong type of holding. So here's a look at the county of Venezia: Image 2. . I have looked at the titles for that county (Perfeddwlad - Wales) and I have nothing for the Major of Dendigh which the title was originally. makes sense. Side note, I'd like the ability to change a holding type in exchange of a large amount of money and the loss of intra holding "buildings". Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. On a side note, I think few major patches ago, they changed feudal to theocracy vassal. Hi all, I'm playing tribal in Ireland and I have just clicked the adopt feudalism button. Hello, I would like to know more about this game since i find it difficult than other strategies, some things i have learned in hard way and some i still can not. Support. The more the better. It was last updated for2. What exactly does this mean?I'm playing as the King of Romagna, so I had Rome as a De Jure Claim. Wrong Type of Holding in Demesne (Oct 05, 2021) popped up saying that a few of my provinces were the wrong type of holding in my demesne. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. I hold Leicester as Earl. Wrong type of holding in demesne ck2. If you give it to a vasall you will get at least 45/50% or more percent of the base income. I am listed as the holder of the city of Newark, so I keep getting the "wrong type of holding" alert. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. Why is this considered "Wrong Type Of Holding In Demesne" despite being a chiefdom In my current game I started out playing a viking from the petty kingdom of Gotland. . Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. All but 2 are coastal. possession of land as one's own: land held in demesne. So you can have an entire province or a castle within it. One 6-holding. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. Crusader Kings II. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. My vassal guy Ragnvald from Ormund decided. The. So, I'm the king of England. What is the actual penalty for holding these?For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. They are not the right type of holding. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. Paradox Store. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. What does it mean, and how do I fix it?For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). Afterwards, I got the "wrong type of holding" warning, and each holding in the three provinces is labeled with a "recently conquered" modifier for wrong religion, wrong culture, etc. 700+ gold to build it, I'll make that up. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. Latest. Each County that makes up your personal domain is divided up into a number of Baronies. Tax Percentage is set by liege law. I gave. I was playing as Matilda. 500KG Sep 6, 2020 @ 11:52am. It's nice to be able to revoke the titles penalty-free when you need more holdings in your domain. You can see it has a city as county capital but it's held by a duke (noble) so it's the wrong type of holding. I am a new player of CK2 (current patch) playing as the feudal King of Sweden on the standard start date. Boards. . Crusader Kings 2 Taxes, Levy and Laws Taxes There are 3 types of holdings in CK2: Castles are owned by feudal lords Churches are owned by bishops Cities are owned by mayors You are a feudal lord so having a city or a church in your demesne is considered having a wrong type of holding and you get 25% penalty to the holding's base income (BI): The Basics. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. Fast forward a generation and the. Why is it bad to govern cities directly? I am guessing it is bad since I got the message warning me. ) Tribal rulers can only hold tribes without penalty, but can easily build new tribes in conquered territory; they can also build temples. I guess it's because the capital is temple and I should put some bishop to rule there, right?I don't understand this. I have looked at the titles for that county (Perfeddwlad - Wales) and I have nothing for the Major of Dendigh which the title was originally. For the counties I usually go to the intrigue tab to recruit a noble/soldier/holy men. I don't understand this. Any help would be appreciated. For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). The best ways to do this is to either simply revoke the baron's title (which WILL give you an opinion hit from all your other vassals, but is often still the simpler of the solutions), or, assassinate the entire family holding the castle so that upon the last holder's death, it will revert to you. Wrong Type Of Holding In Demesne; Some of them are pretty easy to spot. The biggest penalty, though, is that you're basically spending demesne points for worthless holdings. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. So the pope and other catholics went into a crusade, since I'm orthodox I…I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. Currently, CK3 uses the same three holding types (for non-tribal areas) as CK2 did: castles, cities and temples, which are tied to monarchical, republican and theocratic governments respectively. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. . Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. 4 coastal holdings/county. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. I gave away the bishopric that I took over, but I still have it and it says that the Chiefdom of Gwynedd is the wrong holding type for me. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. The biggest penalty, though, is that you're basically spending demesne points for worthless holdings. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. Afterwards, I got the "wrong type of holding" warning, and each holding in the three provinces. . Each of these three types have an associated character type; baronies are typically owned by nobles, cities by. I guess it's because the capital is temple and I should put some bishop to rule there, right?What are the cons of having the wrong holdings in demense? Because whenever I control a city, it's giving me quite a bit of income, but are there downsides to this and why is the game telling me I have the 'wrong holding?'I own the county of Genoa now, the City of Genoa is the capital holding, and all other holdings in the county are owned by vassals. Thank you. I have a warning message that the city and. . . Saves tons of time if you inherit lots of land through crusades/holy wars. Menu. This form of taxation is called a 'liege tax' in Crusader Kings 2. Yxklyx Feb 17, 2016 @ 9:19am. I am listed as the holder of the city of Newark, so I keep getting the "wrong type of holding" alert. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. . There's also penalties to holding too many titles. The plot concluded and I won the county back, but I am now getting a message that says: Wrong type of holding in demesne. What is the actual penalty for holding these? The solutions are either getting the right type of holding to be the county capital, either by building a new holding of the correct type or revoking the title of. There are three types of holdings: Baronies: Focus on troops. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. I revoked it for myself and became a count worchester as I believe I am supposed to be. No existing Merchant Republic can have trade posts in their demesne. . There are four systems of government feudalism, theocracy, republic and tribal. Such holdings may either be counties or baronies. . What does it mean, and how do I fix it?After you've gotten to a stable rich empire mode, you can start building. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. Anyways, I'm playing my first game as the Ua Briain dynasty in Ireland. In CK2 some of them do so (to compensate their land being de facto so heavily underrated), and their military power is based on mercenaries (Mamluks of Egypt, Ghilman of Iraq/Persia) That would be ok, if these armies were not supported by quite massive vasal and demesne levies. makes sense. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. Jun 18, 2015 at 5:20. Thank you. No 6-holding. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. Any help would be appreciated. But I can't give it away. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. What is the actual penalty for holding these?They must personally hold a City in that province (a vassal holding it doesn't count). It isn't listed as one of my demesnes that I can assign to someone else. 19 coastal. . Rogue Rogues are stealthy warriors who can fight with ranged weapons or sneak behind enemies for a deadly backstab attack. Each ruler (except nomads) has a demesne limit, and exceeding it causes a penalty to taxes and levies. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. Your character is always a noble. Later you can use the character search to land people in your realm, usually nice same culture/religion people on the council of your vassals. But you can also see there is a castle in this county: Image 3. A holding will receive pretty significant tax and levy penalties with the wrong type of ruler. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. 700+. I don't understand this. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. Fast forward a generation and the. When I start having lots of money I build cities in every demesne county slot and help them get going with markets and ports. Most characters cannot hold a city within their direct demesne without suffering. 2. . Fast forward a generation and the. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. I have all of Ireland right now (I'm also King of Eire), and I took over Gwynedd from the Petty Kingdom of Gwynedd, but now I have the wrong holding type in my demesne for some reason. . 700+. But now I see Wrong type of holding in demesne message. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. In a separate issue, I have towns/castles that I can't upgrade because it says I don't have Keeps II which I do have. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. If you give it to a vasall you will get at least 45/50% or more percent of the base income. A character is affected by your levy and taxation laws based on their type. 3. What does it mean, and how do I fix it?And how I can change this. . Ormond is a county without a castle, so when you conquer it you will be ruler of a city. And how I can change this. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. This however triggered two consequences I do not understand. Wrong settlement type [edit | edit source]. Each of these three types have an associated. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. Thank you. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. But I can't give it away. 7: Barcelona. Thread starter Jaol; Start date Feb 26,. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. So my count, which rules of two counties died. Settlements [edit | edit source]. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. . Oh, be a jerk to the emperor, guess you're going to go camping. They are not the right type of holding. Bishoprics: A middle ground between baronies and cities. NapoleonI. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. . I don't understand this. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. Wrong Type of Holding When I click on my capital, it no longer has the options to build anything and when i look at the intrigue panel again, it still says adopt feudalism but now I can't do it anymore because it says I need a. " By Anyone-4-CS in forum Networking & Security Replies: 6. I guess it's because the capital is temple and I should put some bishop to rule there, right?Facts and opinions are not the same thing. If you have the wrong holding type you take about 25% of the base income as income. Thank you. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. There are three types of holdings: Baronies: Focus on troops. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. I don't understand this. Generally speaking, castles are best. Launcher. Any help would be appreciated. I saw that I was 9/7 in terms of demese (sp?) so I tried to give some of the provinces away to lower that back to the limit. Note that this means the type of one or more of your provinces could change when you become a republic. CK2 noob here. . . ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more.